Starcraft 2 Thoughts: Macro TvZ ESC Goody vs FXO Slavik

Goody vs Slavik cast by Duckvillelol

Very interesting, and very LONG game.

Note: spoilers below the countdown numbers!


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This is first game I have seen in a long time, that had enough complexity or new elements for me to feel like doing a Starcraft 2 Thoughts post (if you click on that label, you will get a list of all my SC2 Thoughts postings).

One amusing thing I saw Goody do around 49:45 (Youtube timer not in game clock) was call down a bunch of Mules on Zerg base, don't think they were meant as Manner Mules, but rather just a way to steal some minerals.

For long games like this, I wouldn't mind seeing someone experiment with 3-4 extra Orbitals just for doing this on a regular basis.  Scan, spam mules, then rinse and repeat when energy is maxed again ^_^

I agree strongly with the comments Duckvillelol made about the Nydus not being used seriously through the game, I think they would have made a big difference, especially with either Roaches (they had tunneling claws) or a 2-4 Infestor hit squad.

I think Zerg should have had some Overseers, and used a group of 3-4 to go in and Contaminate some Factories during or right after a fight, would also be a really great time to drop a Nydus adn send some Zerglings, Roaches,  or Infestors through.

Contaminate the Factory, and focus down the Tech Labs or Reators.

One important element I would like to point out and emphasize, is that both Terran and Zerg in this game seemed to be playing for what I think of as Late Game in SC2, with no idea or plan on how to transition into End Game.

To me Late Game is the point in the game were both sides are basically maxed, with whatever unit comp including Top Tier units they want, but there are still plenty of resources on the map.

While End Game is when Gas and then Minerals are gone from the map, and you need to rely on Mana units, since they can resupply energy given time, or Units that can heal after an effective harassment attack (like sniping a Tech Structure with Muta, maybe taking damage to Mutas, but not losing any).

But even though both of these players seem to prefer Late Game play, nether one of them was used or even prepared for a rapid unit comp switch, which can be very effective in late game.

Goody could have won that game in the later stages if he had few barracks built, and some Reactors to attach them to at about the 1:25:40 mark (again Youtube timer 1 hour 25 minutes 40 seconds not in game clock).

Since he had 8000+ minerals banked!!!

I still think he could have won the game, I think he should have waited till he had all his minerals in Marines and Hellions before attacking, because what he needed to do at the very end, was force Zerg to use up all his energy.

The Queens would have been easy to kill if there were no Transfuses or Fungals left, and Infestors are totally defenseless when out of energy.

Would have tried to bait Energy use with pairs of Hellions harassing.

Zerg could have done a Nydus Ling switch at a couple of points in the late game as well, would have been real effective anytime the Hellion count was low.

One other element they both seemed to neglect, was keeping some type of quick reaction force, for Zerg this can be any ground unit with Nydus, for Terran Hellion can work good.

Though you can also use Vikings to some extent for that as Terran.

Vikings in ground mode are like extra beefy Hydras 56% more HP,  with the same DPS and range.

Plus they can fly away in a hurry if they need to.



GL HF,

Cliff

Goody Streaming

http://www.regame.tv/live/3396

I still find Goody to be a very interesting player to study, he seems to use higher level tactics than most other players. 

He frequently will use multiple layers of defense, and offense.

I can tell there is still more thought behind a lot of what he does than I comprehend.  Working on changing that.

Goody vs Haypro Epic TvZ

An Epic game, cast by Duckvillelol, check out his Youtube channel http://www.youtube.com/user/DUCKVILLELOL

Duckvillelol likes to cast long games, I suspect he is a secret Thorzain fan ^_^

Cool Game Goody vs MaNa

Another cool game cast by ForceSC2,  ForceSC2 also provides a replay link.


I think Goody should have gotten a Raven early in the game for PDD and to snipe the Obs.

Elfi vs Goody

This game is from a few months ago, but I have been looking for games from Elfi vs Terrans, if anyone knows about more recent Efli games let me know please, either through Twitter @CliffsEsport or in comments section.

Cast by Crota from http://www.youtube.com/user/MachinimaRealm

Goody is streaming

GoOdy's Stream

Check out the right side of my blog for GoOdy's stream, among others, for easy clicking.

TLO vs GoOdy Showmatch about to begin! It is a Bo5

German language Stream.  English language stream.

Fan of both these players.  But I really hate mirror matchups.

Best of 5 Showmatch.

Vod & Replays are supposed to be up, don't know how long it will take.  Endrey will have VOD at least up on his page here.


Spoiler Alert.

TLO vs GoOdy showmatch Wednesday Sept. 14,2011 at 18:00 CEST

Full info @ Teamliquid.

Wednesday September 14, 2011at 6:00 pm CEST [see world clocks at top of Blog for easy time zone conversion]

Mort's German language stream.  Special Endrey's English language stream.

GoOdy vs Nerchio IPL Losers Rd 4

Game 1  Game 2  Game 3

IPL S2 Winners Round 3 Goody vs Strelok

Game 1     Game 2      Game 3

I have been trying to follow Goody, I find him an interesting pro player.  He shows that you don't need 300 APM to be a pro, just good timing and understanding.

I have replays on my machine, not VOD, were he takes down Catz & Idra easily, which is no easy thing.  Most people would probably say Idra is the strongest player of the 3, though IMO it is more complicated than that.

In a straight up game I would say that might be true, but Catz is the most innovative of the 3 IMO.  Also I don't think Idra could do as well with the APM the Goody has himself.

Anyway, the fact that Goody could beat Catz who does unique things & Idra who is a strong solid player that focues on Macro and Machanics, demonstrates IMO that Goody's style of play is also viable.